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Sally and Mina by BenBates Sally and Mina by BenBates
Messing around a little with Sally and Mina's designs. I was never happy with how I was drawing Mina in general for issue 221 and have wanted to play around with her for a long time now. This is still not what I'm looking for out of the character but its better.
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WandererInDarkness Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Mina holding that mike...reminds me of vocaloid for some reason.

Nice job, btw.
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DarkmarkMSX Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014
Love what you did here, Mr. Bates. You did an excellent job of drawing their designs into the Sega-style. There's not a line out of place, and the colors just POP. :)
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FrozenFirebug Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It's odd seeing one of the simplest character designs right next to the most complex.
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nobody661 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
IKR?
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SonicFanArtist46 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
OK, I know these comments is from a few months… But I gotta question: Which one is the simplest and which one is the more complex? 
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nobody661 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sally is simplest, and Mina is complex.
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SonicFanArtist46 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmmmm… True, true… Mina can be a pain in the neck to sketch…
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nobody661 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I actually haven't drawn any Archie exclusive characters yet!
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SonicFanArtist46 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, well… Maybe you should, they can be a pain when you don't have a picture to start them but I'm sure you  will get  better  at drawing them more often. 
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nobody661 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I actually don't think they're too bad!
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Pichulover20 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Congratz on your success in the art industry man ^^

I really love your art style in the Sonic Archie Comics! Keep up the good work!
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BenBates Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013  Professional
Thanks! I appreciate the words of support!

I've been away from Sonic for a few months now but I just finished a cover for 260 and had a lot of fun putting it together. Now I'm about to start work on the cover for 261. 

I don't know when I'll get back to penciling interiors so hopefully these covers will keep my name in good standing! 
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4xEyes1987 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Professional Artist
Who says Mina can't have a new look?
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AwesomeBlossomPossum Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I was browsing my sonic favorites and found this gem again, i just love the way you drew these gals ovo Sally's face here is great, its unique but fits the sega sonic style :thumbsup: Those boots are perfect too.
I hope you dont mind but I did this [link] with the Sally sketch ;v; I hope thats alright!
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BenBates Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013  Professional
Oh man, hey Charlotte! I happened to jump online way back when you sent this and I really appreciated it! I tried the link again now and it looks like its down.
I was working and tired back in June, (yeah, June 25th? Man I was in a super crunch that week. I had to finish the Cutie Mark Crusaders comic by June 29th) and it was great to hear you enjoyed just a little doodle I did and that it then inspired you to go on and create more stuff with it. 

Sorry it took me so long to say, but thanks again!
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Xeric-Studios Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
You should use the eyes on this drawing of Sally on her new design. I think her new Amy-like eyes are what's putting a lot of people off Sally's new design. The eyes you gave her makes her look very young.
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MassiveWonders Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
OMG I wqants to draw like this!!!<3
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R55 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2012
Looks cool.
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FreenInGreen Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
Geez! No offense to anyone else at Archie, but you've actually went ahead and made them look like actual Sonic characters! Honestly I never thought that was possible, but I thought wrong! Fantastic job, and I'm glad that there's someone working on the comics that tries to mirror the official style so well!

(Especially liking Mina's design that you've done, Eagerly awaiting your 'final' version of the character. I hope you figure out what you wanna do with her look very soon!)
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FirebirdPhoenix87 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Looks great.
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GeekGemLadiesman11 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
mina looks great! X#3
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BriannaTheBlackCat Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I LOOVE Mina's design!!
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TheKKM Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
This is absolutely amazing. I've been modeling my Sally drawings, namely on her face, on a mix of your proportions and artwork from 230, Spaz' artwork from the Archives covers, and her SatAM look; and then you go and do basically the same I was doing, but infinitely better. Amazing.

Not even talking about Mina, because that'd be redundant- you make the best Mina the comics have seen so far. Lovely ideas for her design, here- I always felt her clothes looked a bit too grundge for a pop star, but hey, you make it work.

If I may make a suggestion for a possible couple sketches, as I remember you once took in your blog, how about sometime trying to make a more SEGA design for some Sonic the Comic characters? You drew ol' Blockhead Bill on one of the comics, so I take it you're familiar with the cast; and you'd likely produce interesting results.
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TheKKM Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
In sum- amazing artwork, Mr. Bates. You're an inspiration.
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Vinnyvampire101 Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2012  Student Digital Artist
This is cute ^^
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MikoChan Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
Hmmmm....wow I just felt a jolt of inspiration looking at these--especially princess Sally. Have you ever thought of making their hair one color like the game characters just to see how it looks? It just occurred to me because people were talking about Mina being a full blonde on the messageboard I go to because she looks so much like a game character. I've always imagined that for Mina at least, that'd be more feasible to see on occasion since she's a musician and they're always wearing new hairstyles and clothes. As for double layered hair, I usually prefer making Mina with pink hair or adding a pinkish tint. Hmmm Space Channel 5 or Hatsune Miku spoofs in Mina's clothes/hair are also possibilities. Sega has produced quite a few song/dance games. What I really like here are the bangs. I know some may find it weird but I really it. It's really simple looking and I may try something that.

For Sally? I actually like her hair a lot here. I think the more major pick people have with her design has always been the nudity thing. It's frustrating as a Sally fan, but I guess since Sonic is targeted to kids, I can understand them not being culturally relative in how they see her being nude. But, didn't she have some kind of princess Jasmine outfit/hairstyle as a kid? Could do like a GI Joe meets fairy tale princess sort of thing. I don't know why but that gives me a "warrior/princessy" vibe. All in all I can't think of much else to say for Sally because I like the direction you took as is. I like how you did her hair. Because it's longer it looks more Sonicy and it's less awkward as a separate color from her fur compared to when it's short. Though if she were just one color maybe in a ponytail like she had it in the classic comics...?
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BenBates Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Professional
I have thought about making their hair color the same as their fur, quite a bit recently. I'm really excited to see if something cool can be done with it. I've been doodling a couple ideas for Sally but haven't tried Mina at all. I'm still struggling to find how I would best like to draw Mina normally anyway.
Making Mina fully yellow seems most natural of course, but I feel compelled to work in her purple(or pink). Maybe do the tips of her "hair" like the Babylon Rogues or something.

I'm way into the idea of Mina mixing up hairstyles and clothes. Referencing stuff like Space Channel 5 would be a blast!
Giving Sally clothes is certainly a challenge. As she is a tom boy and a fighter my first impulse is to give her more masculine style clothing. But trying to mix in reference to her being a princess is brillant!
I use to wonder if maybe she didn't want to be recognized as a princess when she was an underground freedom fighter, and maybe she wants to just be on the same level as the commoners. But the characters are constantly bringing her royal status up and treating her like royalty so its certainly no secret.
I personally think her Jasmine outfit is very silly and makes little sense comparing it to how the rest of her family, or even all the other characters in her kingdom, dress. Maybe something can be done with her top at least, or maybe it would be better to take royal elements from the other members of her family. Or maybe its better to make something brand new that just feels right.

If you mess around with any of this stuff I'd be super keen to check it out. Or let me know how mine turns out when I load them up.
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MikoChan Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012
Well why not show us both ideas blonde and not blonde? We'd love to see em! On the issue of hair... hm.

If blonde: I could totally see the whole streak thing like the Babylon Rouges or even like Shadow and Cream who have that same thing going on. Color? Well since you mentioned you wanted to work with purple or pink, why not make the streaks purple or pink (I think tho I'd like to see pink on yellow better personally but that's just me). How you'd work it depends on how you'd style it though. It's harder for me to see her have the exact same kind of hair if blonde. Well.. since you were thinking of doing homages maybe ponytails? I dunno. Ulala ponytails may make her look very young because they're so short. IF you do them maybe longer ones (Mikuish) with perhaps the pink/purple (really like pink tho) tips at the tips of the ponytail.I'd love to see clothes spoofs of Ulala (but dude... that collar...is kinda big though...good luck lol).

If not blonde: Pink pink pink pink *breathes* pink pink pink. I don't know why but I really like to see oranges and yellows with pinks. Feels warm fuzzy and sunsetty. Or ok maybe a purple(ish pink :p )

As for the whole Sally princess Jasmine thing, I agree I can't imagine her in her childhood outfit exactly the way it was. What inspired me about it was the wide pants actually. If they were given...I dunno military camo colors...wow not sure why my mind trailed there I may try drawing it. Sally's tough but with all the complaining people make on her being nude, some people sound like they'll accept anything as long as she's "covered." I think what's going to be hard about comparing Sally to the other royal family members is Sally would probably never dress regularly like say, Alicia.I think Sally's style has and probably always will stand apart from them in some significant fashion.Actually I think the whole point is for her to stick out like a sore thumb.As for the servants The only noteworthy servants I remember have usually been the guards, with there berets and buck teeth. Sally in a leotard and a beret? Well that'd sounds like certain street fighter character I know. I'll be very interested in seeing what you come up with. Maybe I'll do something too or get inspired from whatever you do again. It's been so long since I've drawn. I've been in dire need of inspiration. >.<
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EricTheWhitelion Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
cool
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LostTalent100 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
Both Mina and Sally look beautiful, and if you do adapt this style to the comic then I am really looking forward to that!
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Ziggyfin Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm liking these designs! Nicole seems really thin, which looks nice. Kinda like a Gameboy. I also love Mina's poofy hair, but I'm not digging Sally's big hair peices behind her head. A little too big if you ask me. I think the multicoloured dots on Mina's Glove and boot things give her more of a groovy touch too. :D
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Konnichibot Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012   General Artist
I'm kinda diggin' on both of their desgins here. Good job! :D
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SenatorGab Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Awesome as always! But I have to say, this is not nearly as good as you art in the comic :O
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gamma102 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Great! More stuff for me to fave! :)
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SonicSatamX93 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Student Writer
Sweet art of Sally and Mina.

Nice job.
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PC2 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I too love the more SatAM-esque design you used for Sally. Wish the comic would go back to that and get rid of those eyebrows...

Not that you don't handle them well, of course! Just personal preference.
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Sonic808 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nice pic!
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SamCyberCat Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Really loving both of these~

Two of my favourite characters, so it's awesome to see you practising them. Mina's hair certainly looks very flowy and nice in this style.
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uchikun Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
Nice! :dummy:
I love your style so much!
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DarkCatTheKhajjit Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
very nice ^^
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tasakeru828 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I love the anime-ish touches you gave Mina in this one... her design has always made me think of an anime character, that's part of why I like her so much. XD Very nice work, I hope you'll get to draw her again soon!
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CatbeeCache Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The face structure of that Sally is more reminiscent of SatAM. Intentional?
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BenBates Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Professional
You betcha. I was looking around deviantart the other day and I saw someone's avatar had this awesome looking Sally head and wanted to try my hand at it. As I was drawing this I tried to retrace my steps to where I saw it at and study what I they had done so successfully, but I couldn't find it again.
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NextGrandcross Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012
I thought your 221 Mina looked awesome to me. You know Mina always reminds me of a certain character from the fighting game series King of Fighters, I believe Athena, yep!

Also love the Sally pic. You know, one thing I can deal away with on Sally's modern design is the eyebrows, it works on male Chipmunk/Squirrels like Elias and Max, but I never was really into it on the females that much.
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BenBates Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Professional
Hey your right! Now I'm definitely gonna work in whatever reference I can to Athena. I way wish I could give Mina a star on her headband but that might be pushing it.
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kureejiilea Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012
IIRC, she's actually had a star on her headband in at least one issue.
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BenBates Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Professional
Oh man, that would be so cool! I'd feel a lot more comfortable if it was already established. Seems like such a fun little addition. Not just as a reference to a videogame character that she bears a slight resemblance to, but because I'm enamored with the idea of a musical super-star visually identifying her status.
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kureejiilea Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012
Yup, she had a star headband in a story drawn by Dawn Best. It would be a fun addition, and I agree it suits her. The coloured bits you've added to Mina's gloves and boots here are a cute addition as well, and suit the sort of "pop idol" theme, though I worry a little that they're a tad busy at the same time. Still, cute stuff!
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TheTodStar Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Gee... I wonder how long it's gonna be until we see Sally looking like that again...

Nice pics of her an Mina (and Nicole), by the way. :thumbsup:
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LeopardLynx Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree with payrey. Inspiring, man.

I love your style.
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